In the conversation that followed, Jim told me he first learned of the phone when he started roughnecking (working on a rotary drilling rig drilling for oil) in 1958. He had no idea how long the phone had been there prior to that time, but reported the phone was well-known in the area, and, as I had heard from my brother-in-law, was used as a reference point from which to give directions out in that area. Jim also indicated those who used the phone years ago got an operator who placed calls for them.

He went on to provide other history about the ranch on which it's located, and said the land had belonged to the Davis-Nolan-Merrill Grain Company, but was now called the Z Bar Ranch. Curiosity got the best of him after a while and he asked why I wanted to go to the phone, and how I found out about it. When I gave him my brother-in-law's name, he stated, "I know him best in the world," an expression he repeated a couple of times, and one I'd never heard before.

He provided precise directions to the phone as he leaned back on his stool, and said I should have been with him that morning since he had driven right by it. When he said that, I figured he was a pumper who checked oil wells in the area, a guess that was confirmed by my brother-in-law when I talked with him later.

Anyway, he said I had to leave Sun City, head south on a winding road down to Highway 160, turn east one mile, head south again for 14 miles on another winding road, turn left through the gate at the rural fire station where the sign said Z Bar Ranch, cross two pond dams (one big and one small), and, where the road turned back to the north, there is where I'd find the phone!!

Before I walked out, Jim gave me his phone number, just in case I got lost out there.

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